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test_equipment:hard_drive_conversion_to_cf_for_hp16500 [2017/11/17 01:42]
adamgoldman Add CF and HD model information
test_equipment:hard_drive_conversion_to_cf_for_hp16500 [2023/09/19 02:57] (current)
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 ====== Hard Drive Conversion To CF For HP16500 ====== ====== Hard Drive Conversion To CF For HP16500 ======
 ===== HP 16500x Hard drive Info ===== ===== HP 16500x Hard drive Info =====
-This data is from a HP 16500C logic analyzer. The data and boot block format on these drives is whacked.  +This data is from a HP 16500C logic analyzer. These have an m68k processor. The system software is based on the pSOS real-time operating system. The data and boot block format on these drives is whacked.  
-  - They are byte-swapped meaning every byte has to be swapped ​before ​reading. +  - They are byte-swapped meaning every word has to be byte-swapped ​after reading. 
-  - The bytes per sector is set to 32768. +  - The logical ​sector ​size is 32768 bytes
-  - There is no partiton ​table. Instead, the drive appears as a single partition.  ​+  - There is no partition ​table. Instead, the drive appears as a single partition.  ​
  
 However, there is a way to read/write these drives. There'​s a link here to someone who has successfully read one, and the software to read it. However, there is a way to read/write these drives. There'​s a link here to someone who has successfully read one, and the software to read it.
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   * [[http://​www.hsc-us.com/​Embedded/​CFadapters/​ADG_index.htm|Hagiwara ADC3-CFMS01]] - includes housing with standard mounting holes   * [[http://​www.hsc-us.com/​Embedded/​CFadapters/​ADG_index.htm|Hagiwara ADC3-CFMS01]] - includes housing with standard mounting holes
   * [[http://​www.newegg.com/​Product/​Product.aspx?​Item=N82E16822998002|SYBA SD-CF-IDE-A]] - used with innoDisk iCF 4000 2G   * [[http://​www.newegg.com/​Product/​Product.aspx?​Item=N82E16822998002|SYBA SD-CF-IDE-A]] - used with innoDisk iCF 4000 2G
 +  * Syba SD-ADA45006 - with housing, 2.5" form factor - requires modification to 16500B chassis. Needs 44 to 40 pin adapter (various eBay sellers). Remove hard drive/side fan bracket from 16500B (first, need to remove top and bottom covers, side cover and rear fan). Then remove side fan from bracket, drill 4 new mounting holes in bracket, mount CF adapter and insert CF card. Insert card in "CF1 master"​ slot, leave other slot empty. Check CF socket for bent pins before inserting card. Reinstall fans and brackets. Be sure to orient 44 pin connector correctly.
  
 ===== Compatible CF cards ===== ===== Compatible CF cards =====
  
   * Dane-Elec - unknown model - 64MB   * Dane-Elec - unknown model - 64MB
-  * Dane-Elec - unknown model - 256MB+  * Dane-Elec - unknown model - 256MB (but some Dane-Elec 256MB cards don't work) 
 +  * Dane-Elec - unknown model - 512MB - Top of card says "​CompactFlash(tm)"​ in red at top next to triangle, left side of label has camera, cellphone, walkman and tablet icons next to a large number 512 in white over a large purple circle background, bottom of label has blue and red Dane-Elec logo
   * innoDisk iCF 4000 - 1GB   * innoDisk iCF 4000 - 1GB
-  * Lexar - unknown model, x4 speed - 64MB+  * Lexar CF064-04-291 ​- 64MB - Card is yellow and purple, has red 4x speed marking on card and packaging, says "USB enabled"​ on card and packaging
   * Pro Tecnik - unknown model - 128MB   * Pro Tecnik - unknown model - 128MB
   * Simple Tech - unknown model (yellow and black) - 64MB, 128MB and 256MB   * Simple Tech - unknown model (yellow and black) - 64MB, 128MB and 256MB
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 ===== Incompatible CF cards ===== ===== Incompatible CF cards =====
  
 +  * Cisco - unknown model - 512MB
 +  * Dane-Elec - unkown model - 256MB (formats, but doesn'​t boot; but some Dane-Elec 256MB cards do work)
   * integral - unknown model - 64MB   * integral - unknown model - 64MB
   * Lexar - unknown model - 128MB   * Lexar - unknown model - 128MB
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   * Transcend - CompactFlash 80x - 512MB   * Transcend - CompactFlash 80x - 512MB
   * Transcend - CompactFlash 133x - 4GB   * Transcend - CompactFlash 133x - 4GB
 +  * Transcend - unkown models - 256MB to 4GB
   * Viking - unknown model - 256MB   * Viking - unknown model - 256MB
  
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 The 16500B will not complete its power-on test with the IBM DJNA-352500 drive attached. It will display "​software error" and freeze. This happens even if you reduce the drive capacity using the 2GB jumper or SET MAX ADDRESS. If you jumper the drive to disable auto spin up, the 16500B will complete the power-on test, but it will display "​software error" and freeze when you try to format the drive. The 16500B will not complete its power-on test with the IBM DJNA-352500 drive attached. It will display "​software error" and freeze. This happens even if you reduce the drive capacity using the 2GB jumper or SET MAX ADDRESS. If you jumper the drive to disable auto spin up, the 16500B will complete the power-on test, but it will display "​software error" and freeze when you try to format the drive.
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 +SATA drives with SATA to PATA adapters will not work. They get a "​software error" during 16500B power-on test, same as the DJNA-352500 PATA drive.
  
 ===== Preparing a newly installed drive ===== ===== Preparing a newly installed drive =====
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 To format the drive, boot the System Disk 1 floppy. Once it boots, use the touch screen to change from "​Configuration"​ to "Hard Disk". Then change from "​Load"​ to "​Format Disk". Press "​Execute",​ then confirm both times when prompted. To format the drive, boot the System Disk 1 floppy. Once it boots, use the touch screen to change from "​Configuration"​ to "Hard Disk". Then change from "​Load"​ to "​Format Disk". Press "​Execute",​ then confirm both times when prompted.
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 +If the 16500B reports "Disk Timeout"​ after executing format on a CompactFlash card, power cycle the 16500B and try formatting the card again.
  
 After formatting, make the drive bootable by [[http://​www.philpem.me.uk/​elec/​testgear/​hp16500b/​reinstall/​|copying the system software to it.]] After formatting, make the drive bootable by [[http://​www.philpem.me.uk/​elec/​testgear/​hp16500b/​reinstall/​|copying the system software to it.]]
  
 [[http://​www.home.agilent.com/​agilent/​editorial.jspx?​cc=US&​lc=eng&​ckey=695683&​nid=-536902443.0.00&​id=695683|16500B Operating System Software]] [[http://​www.home.agilent.com/​agilent/​editorial.jspx?​cc=US&​lc=eng&​ckey=695683&​nid=-536902443.0.00&​id=695683|16500B Operating System Software]]
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 +If desired, [[http://​www.philpem.me.uk/​elec/​testgear/​hp16500b/​symtab/​|install the Symbol Table Utility.]]
  
 ===== Yahoo Groups thread ===== ===== Yahoo Groups thread =====
 
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